Intercontinental Pack problem

[Jancsika]

There is the saying: “It takes two to tango” (Maybe three???)
By now you all should have learned, that Darthroid will have to have the last word, no matter what, so why are you all have to challenge him?
If you leave him alone, he will quietly go away.
But you are trying to make points, that have been repeatedly made. It is painful to read the same thing over and over and over.... again.
Meanwhile the basic question is not answered, or if it is it disappears in the argument.
Remember: This is a RAILROAD forum.
Jancsika

[RockyNarrowGauge]

Brandon, I saw what you had erased above and all it was was the quote that is in the later one, nothing more. It has happened to me before on more than one forum. A wrong character screws up the post and someone makes a post before you can correct it so, all you can do is change it to "Mistake" or "Error" or something. As to other people editing posts:

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 004#p41004

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 716#p40716

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 994#p40994

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 011#p41011

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 774#p40774

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 775#p40775

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 787#p40787

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 789#p40789

20 edits there.

Of course there will be an acceptable reason for it, but hey, that's life and everyone does it.
And I guess we all make mistakes and at times take them back. But by Webster's definition, Lie - "1 : to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive" that is what I see was done to you.
But hey, I like your idea, "If you have a problem with people, ignore them. I do.", so I think I'll follow your advice.

As to your point Jancsika, if the slandering would stop against anyone who does not agree with him, no matter how nice they try to be, there would not be so much trouble. This is a public forum, not one ruled by one or two members who feel the need to dictate who can and cannot post in certain places and what they can and cannot do.

[darthdroid]

Brandon, I saw what you had erased above and all it was was the quote that is in the later one, nothing more. It has happened to me before on more than one forum. A wrong character screws up the post and someone makes a post before you can correct it so, all you can do is change it to "Mistake" or "Error" or something. As to other people editing posts:

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 004#p41004

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 716#p40716

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 994#p40994

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 011#p41011

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 774#p40774

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 775#p40775

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 787#p40787

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 789#p40789

20 edits there.

Of course there will be an acceptable reason for it, but hey, that's life and everyone does it.
And I guess we all make mistakes and at times take them back. But by Webster's definition, Lie - "1 : to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive" that is what I see was done to you.
But hey, I like your idea, "If you have a problem with people, ignore them. I do.", so I think I'll follow your advice.

As to your point Jancsika, if the slandering would stop against anyone who does not agree with him, no matter how nice they try to be, there would not be so much trouble. This is a public forum, not one ruled by one or two members who feel the need to dictate who can and cannot post in certain places and what they can and cannot do.

1/ All those edits except in the rules posts are done within 10 minutes after the original post - shown by time stamps. After posting, I read through my post and sometimes change how I word something-pretty common

2/ You actually list the rule change posts? lol one of those edits on the initial rules post was to GIVE BRANDON CREDIT (edit #3)- so those 3 or 4 examples are really silly - they are not about anyone, not part of a debate or argument, they are rules-which with edits, I am perfecting, guess what-I'll probably keep editing those.

Also: This is really a poor rebuttal rocky, this is why: First, you are lying-either you don't know what Brandon said (thus lying that you do) or you flat out lie about WHAT he said (even worse)-we all know what he said, and it proved my point.

Second: Clearly you are calling "hypocrisy" here. But editing a spelling error or rewording a sentence, or toning it down a bit (can you actually believe I tone my posts DOWN ??? lol) is NOT what I accused Brandon of. I accused him of going back LONG AFTER a post was written, RIGHT BEFORE making a new post that he doesn't make rude comments and deleting that comment from weeks ago or days ago.

10 minutes later vs. up to WEEKS later... no not the same thing at all.


Third: Even snoopy recently admitted I don't edit my posts (for the sake of deception).
And while I see he is copying Brandon (gee—I thought SNOOPY was the king, I guess it’s Brandon since snoopy now takes direction from him) by deleting posts and writing “forum error” to hide that which proves him wrong…. He forgot to erase this one:

I apologize. Honestly. Red is not my color as bobby found out when he put to much of it on his forum one time.

And no, I'm not one for phone calls. Even talking to my daughter is better online. Face to face is best tho.

All I'm looking for is answers to the questions put to you. You tend to stand next to Lowell in that. The only real difference is that he has a tendency to go back and edit his posts days or weeks after he makes them. You do not
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Which will be found here until snoopy deletes it,
http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 830#p40830
lol EVEN SNOOPY ADMITS I NEVER ERASE MY POINTS, AND WE ALL KNOW I DON’T-UNLIKE YOU GUYS MY WORDS HOLD UP TO SCRUTINY…. You guys need to work together more and get your stories straight...

Lastly: As I politely told you in PMs, slander is SPOKEN, so without youtube, ventrillo, or VOIP, we cannot really slander on the internet eh? The word you speak of is called "LIBEL" ... which by the way, on Bobby's Site they spell it "liable" which does not mean "a spoken lie to a third party which causes damages (money loss)" It means responsible for... but we know he meant libel... so he should change that and add it to the list of fixes I performed on his site-hopefully he doesn't take 6 months to fix that one as LEGAL wording is quite important and libel is NOTHING like liable.

[snoopy55]

Brandon, I saw what you had erased above and all it was was the quote that is in the later one, nothing more. It has happened to me before on more than one forum. A wrong character screws up the post and someone makes a post before you can correct it so, all you can do is change it to "Mistake" or "Error" or something. As to other people editing posts:

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 004#p41004

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 716#p40716

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 994#p40994

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 011#p41011

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 774#p40774

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 775#p40775

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 787#p40787

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 789#p40789

20 edits there.

Of course there will be an acceptable reason for it, but hey, that's life and everyone does it.
And I guess we all make mistakes and at times take them back. But by Webster's definition, Lie - "1 : to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive" that is what I see was done to you.
But hey, I like your idea, "If you have a problem with people, ignore them. I do.", so I think I'll follow your advice.

As to your point Jancsika, if the slandering would stop against anyone who does not agree with him, no matter how nice they try to be, there would not be so much trouble. This is a public forum, not one ruled by one or two members who feel the need to dictate who can and cannot post in certain places and what they can and cannot do.

1/ All those edits except in the rules posts are done within 10 minutes after the original post - shown by time stamps. After posting, I read through my post and sometimes change how I word something-pretty common

2/ You actually list the rule change posts? lol one of those edits on the initial rules post was to GIVE BRANDON CREDIT (edit #3)- so those 3 or 4 examples are really silly - they are not about anyone, not part of a debate or argument, they are rules-which with edits, I am perfecting, guess what-I'll probably keep editing those.

Also: This is really a poor rebuttal rocky, this is why: First, you are lying-either you don't know what Brandon said (thus lying that you do) or you flat out lie about WHAT he said (even worse)-we all know what he said, and it proved my point.

Second: Clearly you are calling "hypocrisy" here. But editing a spelling error or rewording a sentence, or toning it down a bit (can you actually believe I tone my posts DOWN ??? lol) is NOT what I accused Brandon of. I accused him of going back LONG AFTER a post was written, RIGHT BEFORE making a new post that he doesn't make rude comments and deleting that comment from weeks ago or days ago.

10 minutes later vs. up to WEEKS later... no not the same thing at all.


Third: Even snoopy recently admitted I don't edit my posts (for the sake of deception).
And while I see he is copying Brandon (gee—I thought SNOOPY was the king, I guess it’s Brandon since snoopy now takes direction from him) by deleting posts and writing “forum error” to hide that which proves him wrong…. He forgot to erase this one:

I apologize. Honestly. Red is not my color as bobby found out when he put to much of it on his forum one time.

And no, I'm not one for phone calls. Even talking to my daughter is better online. Face to face is best tho.

All I'm looking for is answers to the questions put to you. You tend to stand next to Lowell in that. The only real difference is that he has a tendency to go back and edit his posts days or weeks after he makes them. You do not
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Which will be found here until snoopy deletes it,
http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 830#p40830
lol EVEN SNOOPY ADMITS I NEVER ERASE MY POINTS, AND WE ALL KNOW I DON’T-UNLIKE YOU GUYS MY WORDS HOLD UP TO SCRUTINY…. You guys need to work together more and get your stories straight...

Lastly: As I politely told you in PMs, slander is SPOKEN, so without youtube, ventrillo, or VOIP, we cannot really slander on the internet eh? The word you speak of is called "LIBEL" ... which by the way, on Bobby's Site they spell it "liable" which does not mean "a spoken lie to a third party which causes damages (money loss)" It means responsible for... but we know he meant libel... so he should change that and add it to the list of fixes I performed on his site-hopefully he doesn't take 6 months to fix that one as LEGAL wording is quite important and libel is NOTHING like liable.

You have stated that you never edit your posts. Now you give yourself an excuse for editing them.

Then you tell RockyNarrowGauge that he does not know what was said (we all know HE could not have read it is 23 minutes, heck no) but then you state that "we all know what he said". Make up your mind, either we all know or we all don't know. I don't, so i guess we all don't.

" I accused him of going back LONG AFTER a post was written, RIGHT BEFORE making a new post that he doesn't make rude comments and deleting that comment from weeks ago or days ago."

To tear that down, this thread is only 2 days old, so weeks do not apply. As to days, it was a whole 23 minutes. And I just checked ALL 27 of his posts. That is the ONLY one that he has EVER edited. Why don't you stop being such a pain and try being sure of yourself before you accuse and make statements. Or do you know how to do that?

All that I meant with that statement, and I can do this, you do, is that you do not go back and change statements you have made weeks, months and in cases, a year or more later. Lowells most memorable one to me was posting that SAMs were not the way to go and that he preferred the old way and would NEVER go to that type of map structure. 9 months later, because I edited the wording and added definitions to the first post in that thread, he went back and completely changed his post:

Posted in this thread: Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:02 am

What about those who like to leave alot of maps in their files and don't have an issue with say keeping a few or many maps in their inventory. Then they end up with double files inside FPKs? Like say two or three maps that have a port and they all put the same model in their FPK.

I like flipping through the maps in the load screen. Sometimes you don't know which map you want to play, and they may pick one they haven't played in awhile or at all. People will forget maps they take out of their files. After all the months of work it takes to build new models and files...it seems a shame to have it tosed and forgotten so fast.

Anyway I think the only thing about the content is it has to scan it all when you load a new map. After it enters what it finds in the players Saved game scenario file, it just runs off that and doesn't scan every time. So I only think it affects the first load. Upon reload of a saved map it doesn't scan everything only what was on the list at the time of save. So I am not sure if you are going to save anyone any system resources by this, take the Florida Gold 20x20 map...play for a day and a half...get it real full on a new blank RailRoads file set (clean game load)...and it still wants 2gig of memory. But I don't mind, I'm trying that file system now...just can't get it to kick-in. Global stuff runs fine though.

Sorry been buried in maps and stuff haven't seen these construction posts till now.

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:02 am
As this thread was totally edited and changed from it's original subject, I need to edit this post.
The above discription of the basic CIC (Clean Install Compatible) map file use made above is very good. The only differance between Sams and CICs is CIC maps have all the map content uncompressed and placed inside the map folder. No FPK files to mess with, just one single file folder to drag, drop and play. CIC maps will most likely contain global xml files, so these maps can only be played in the usermaps folder one at a time.


Last edited by Lowell on Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:45 pm, edited 2 times in total.

The editing I did was simply defining the different types of map styles along with installing instructions.

You just want to lash out and anybody lately don't you. And you are not even defending yourself. Try answering what is put to you instead of making a donkey out of yourself.

You guys need to work together more and get your stories straight...

And you complain about me telling you that Steel does not go to the Power Plant, and here you are trying to make yourself look smart and others look dumb with definitions. Go look in the mirror. If it is alright for you to make those mistakes, why is it not alright for others? You claim to be the expert, not the others.

By the way, that is "ventrilo", one l, not two.

[darthdroid]

The point, Lawrence,

Is that I have never edited even ONE post for the sake of deception, but only for the point of clarity. That is, I edit to make the SAME point a few minutes later with words moved around, shortened, lengthened... find me an edit I did even a day later (I can think of one and it was done only to spare the feelings of someone-I removed an insult, but not an insult I denied in another post or that created proof or falsehood of something else I said).
Both of you edited to hide the truth, long, long after the original post.

Yet all my edits are clearly within the time frame it takes me to read my own post (10 minutes)-for my own sake, not to deceive others or make claims that would be proven false by what I originally said-and editing to HIDE that proof. That is what you and brandon have done. All hail king brandon and his lap dog snoopy.

And as I said, you've admitted this so there's nothing to argue about on that...

Also, you are confused: You said the steel mill makes money off steel pickups and steel deliveries-both are false, as they were the first 5-6 times I told you that. And no third party makes money off of pills... you always accuse me of an inability to admit when I'm wrong (even though I have) can you admit where YOU are wrong? If so, acknowledge the pills and steel. Otherwise, you're not only a hypocrite, but also a fraud.

[darthdroid]

Thanks for correcting my spelling snoopy-I guess I don't spend enough time playing those crazy games like WOW... too dangerous in my opinion, LOTRO cost me $50,000 in 2007 as I got lost in it for 6 months.

Just a question: You continue to spell the word "steal" (the verb to take without rights, etc.) as "steel". At first I thought you must be mocking someone who spelled it incorrectly (maybe even me-as you know, I don't have the time on my hands that you, rocky, and others have to search through 3 years of posts-I did it once and it was pretty lame and pointless lol) but it is becoming so widespread among your chicken party that I don't know if it's a joke or if you all don't know how to spell it or what the deal is... I don't even care if it's a joke on me, I just want to know what's going on with it. And if it is a joke I must say I'm a bit surprised how long you guys can carry out a lame joke... kinda funny though (that that's all you have as ammunition against whomever it's a joke upon).

[darthdroid]

Oh, another question:

So I notice you guys finally take a break after someone gets a bloody nose and wait about 20 hours to post something. I'm starting to think you actually spend a lot of time plotting what to say, who will say it, who will follow that up with what point, etc. While I suspected this before, I always brushed it off as I figured "well, with all that plotting, surely they'd do better than THIS!!" But I'm really starting to think it's true-perhaps it is so that the odds are decreased on who is made to look bad? Now you only have a 20% chance of failing after a lot of work on those 5 person rebuttals? or is 6? or is it 4? or is it 7? Irrelevant, all these responses are generally equally brainless, no matter who they arise from, whether plotted and planned or not. But it would really be funny if you did indeed actually spend time on this rhetoric-I mean, REALLY funny. Imagine, all that work, just to be dashed so quickly by someone else who spent NO TIME, just completely off the cuff, I mean... how humiliating.

[darthdroid]

Oh and seriously, if you guys have a legal user agreement on your bobby's site.... don't you think it's kinda important that you know what Libel vs Liable is??? It certainly makes a HUGE difference on the LIABILITY you take on by what OTHERS write on bobby's forum.

And as I said, if I was trying to "look smart"... why would I have politely PMed Rocky the first time he was confused about that? Wouldn't I do it in the open for all to see-you know to "look smart" in front of someone? He ignored me so asked for it.... and again, I don't want vzbob to get sued for LIBEL because he never mentioned LIBEL in his user agreement.... LIBEL is a pretty important concept to get right in your user agreement... lot's of gratitude as usual, I'm protecting you from a huge legal hassle and instead of a thank you I get the typical Larry nonsense. It's not my fault you guys are clueless....

[snoopy55]

"Both of you edited to hide the truth, long, long after the original post." Both of who? If you are talking about Lowell and I, that first post was edited at 11 months and a year because of requests by other members and the addition of CICs. It was a Sticky and the first post had to be updated, like your rules. It was originally about the BBs and a note about SAMs. Lowells change was because he took our idea and changed it a bit and didn't want to look like he disliked his own idea.

And now you create a new forum rule.....Tho shalt not edit a post after 10 minutes. We seem to need a Darthdroid Forum Rule thread. Why do all your "rules" fit you and no one else? Get real!

By the way, what was it that Brandon wrote that you and all the rest of us did? you are the only one talking, repeatedly, like you know what it was. Brandon tells me it was no more than a quote of your post. A misplaced character kept the rest from showing up and he could not correct it because you had to get a wise crack in there. And it took him that 23 minutes to search for what he had said again and write it up. Of course that HAS to be another of his constant lying, which you still have not proven, along with his many changes to his 27 posts you claim he made. Have proof of what you intend to say or don't say it.

As to that pill thing. The main problem with all of that is you insist on buying the industries and watching what they make. I did not buy them, I just ran the train and watched the numbers. I give an explanation using names of people (stupid of me in a discussion with you) and you take those name to be different players in an online game. But read things how you want.

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 723#p40723

"I just wanted to comment on this. While yes, you'd prefer to have only a steel factory, there is still plenty of money in 50% of a steel factory. 50% because 1/2 the steel goes to the powerplant."

http://www.hookedgamers.com/forums/view ... 754#p40754

Read them, they are your posts. And you cannot edit them cause they are over 10 minutes old.

There is a spell checker built into the forum and IT pointed it out to me in the quote I did of you. Stop being such a smartypants. I highly doubt you are impressing anyone. And I admit that I'm not a good speller anymore. I have an excuse for it. You are the expert genius, you should not make such mistakes, especially after picking on someone else about it.

Yes, it is a joke, on Lowell. While he was accusing me and others of stealing things over many months HE spelled it that way. If you are going to accuse someone of something as simple as that, at least know how to spell it. One or twice I could see, but not for months.

And unlike you, I don't save up 'ammunition' against people. This is the first time his mane was mentioned in connection with it. You, on the other hand, seem to want to drag things from one thread to another repeatedly.

And there you go, thinking the worst of a number of people you don't even know. I myself spend most of my time working on maps and the materials that go int them. vzbob does too. As to the others, gee, I wonder if they might by chance sleep and have jobs? Naaaa, we all get on a party line and conspire to say nasty thing about Darthdroid, right guys???? NOT! Get real and get a life. I know you have not bothered vzbob or I at all, except rug burns from falling on the floor laughing!

And I didn't even bother reading the last of that one. After all, you don't seem to read mine do you. If you do by chance, you jump to conclusions as fast as you can. Drop the stopwatch, it ain't impressive.

Oh ya, your friend Lowell made a post. Get over there and back him up.

And you can quit using my name. Not only does it NOT impress me, but it puts Roy in the hot seat too. But you'll do it more and often because you think you are aggravating me, you know, that thing you accuse everyone else of doing?

[snoopy55]

There Darth, you have my full name. And I know all the childish jokes from grade school.

[darthdroid]

Hmm, so the name is a sore spot huh? I don't know, it's a pretty cool name-makes you sound like one of those '70s gigalos... "Hey Larry, what's cookin'?" and so forth. I like it, first thing I've liked about you in a long time Snoopster.

Now listen here Larry. "you both" clearly indicates you and brandon and brandon is well known for falsifying forum documents-you wanna deny it? go ahead. As far as spell check? Never use it, I rely on my education instead.

And I assume that by making excuses (you know, the same lame martyr style excuse you ALWAYS make: "Listen here, I'm working hard on maps here-everyone would be LOST without me and my mad mod skills-I don't have time for trivial nonsense, I'm doing important work here-making trains and maps and BBs and you're a jerk, JERK." Or something like that. Yes, yes, we're all very impressed with what YOU do Lawrence. I mean, christ (and no I'm not talking about you when I say "christ") HOW DID the world get along without you and your precious mods? My god, it's a wonder we all can do anything without the king of modding around.

As far as Lowell goes. We're not really friends see, we do have a common enemy... And we ourselves are not enemies. I don't back up what he says, we don't play off each other. YOU are the one that apparently needs FIVE + people to deal with me. I deal with you by myself. So does Lowell from what I've seen. And THAT is what Lowell and I have in common. You seem to need a whole bunch of people-can not handle anything alone I guess....
Personally, I thrive alone, that's my modus operandi.

Anyway, you're right, some of us have jobs and not the benefit of retirement (I do hope that's it in your case). And I gotta boatload to do today.

The rest of your rhetoric will be ignored. As I've pointed out before-I'm not going to give an answer more than 2 or 3 times just because you have no rebuttals outside of lying or denying. NOW that is what reminds me of the "playground"... you're idea of an argument is plug your ears every time a point is made and yelling "LA LA LA LA LA" and then claiming they said nothing.... quite amusing. I've addressed the edits "forum error" <---COWARDS lol, I've addressed "10 minutes vs much longer" I've addressed "edits to fix my posts right after posting vs EDITS TO DECEIVE".

And as far as "steel" goes, 2 points: First, okay, saying it for months and months entitles you to your joke. BUT the fact that YOU'VE been using that same joke for so long is LAME-THAT IS THE BEST YOU HAVE???? Spelling errors? I said "steel" when I meant "coal" and you keep bringing it up (notice I never edited it-proving what I claim about who edits to deceive, once again). I guess I'm pretty good if that's all you have on me "steel" lol. Get real, pathetic.

And while you claim you were too busy-no libel vs. liable is a pretty serious mistake as it's in your legal disclaimer. But now I know who wrote it. I guess spell check does not have a built in ignorance check. Now I know that you must be a poor speller since you admitted use of it also. Some of us spell correctly out of skill in the language due to actual education-amazing, no?

But at least you, unlike rocky know it should be "libel" not "slander", so props to you for that Lawrence.

[snoopy55]

You really are having problems reading things.

The sore spot as far as my name was not you using it, I would figure such was above you but I was wrong. The sore spot was the person who gave it to you.

"brandon and brandon is well known for falsifying forum documents-you wanna deny it? " Yes, I do. I just told you I read all 27 of his posts. There is no "falsifying" of anything in there. You claim there was a load of stuff in what he deleted. So now it's up to you to prove it. I didn't see it. What did it say? And where is all of this other falsifying he is famous for? 27 posts ain't much to go thru. But hey, skip this, you don't have time to prove your point.

"And I assume that by making excuses" And that was not an excuse as you so quickly read it to be. You wondered why I and others were not on the forum 24 hours a day. I gave you the reason I'm not. You, of course, have to try to blow it up trying to get me upset. Won't work. I tend to look at the source and here I see someone who has to try to aggravate some and see what reaction he can get .

And this forum could have gotten along fine without me, I never said it couldn't. It's many other members who have made the comments about what this game has been made into with my help, NOT by me alone. And just to cut you off, it was long before Brandon and Rocky and it wasn't vzbob.

The reason for my not being able to work is medical. If you had truly read this forum it has been asked a few times and answered with the specific reason, so like you, I won't answer it again.

Of course it will be ignored, that's your style, ignore what you don't want to address because it goes against you. I've addressed the points, you have your ears plugged. "The rest of your rhetoric will be ignored.". You may have addressed that "forum error" but you have NOT told me what was in it that "we all" saw.

" I said "steel" when I meant "coal" and you keep bringing it up" Probably because you keep bringing up the pill thing. Which I answered and you replied with "The rest of your rhetoric will be ignored." You have been repeating the same stuff about a few people all over.

"libel vs. liable is a pretty serious mistake as it's in your legal disclaimer.". You must have a really THICK skull, another thing you have in common with Lowell, me and Bobby's Railroads. Let me see if I can put this into words you, and maybe even he, can understand.......... IT (Bobby's Railroad) IS NOT (In no way; to no degree) MY (me, Larry Hammer) FORUM (A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas)! It is vzbob's! He created it. He pays for it. He controls it. IT IS HIS. Now, did that get thru or will it have to be repeated several more time to add to the several times it has already been said? Sheesh. Do you have this problem with the job you do? (by the way, I've been told that the one in this forum is the same, so go jump on a few other heads)

One last thing, just in case you forgot......what was in that post of Brandons that he changed that was so BAD that you could only write 1 line that made no mention of it's content? Must have been REAL SHOCKING since not to make comment is way out of your style.

[darthdroid]

You really are having problems reading things.

The sore spot as far as my name was not you using it, I would figure such was above you but I was wrong. The sore spot was the person who gave it to you.

"brandon and brandon is well known for falsifying forum documents-you wanna deny it? " Yes, I do. I just told you I read all 27 of his posts. There is no "falsifying" of anything in there. You claim there was a load of stuff in what he deleted. So now it's up to you to prove it. I didn't see it. What did it say? And where is all of this other falsifying he is famous for? 27 posts ain't much to go thru. But hey, skip this, you don't have time to prove your point.

"And I assume that by making excuses" And that was not an excuse as you so quickly read it to be. You wondered why I and others were not on the forum 24 hours a day. I gave you the reason I'm not. You, of course, have to try to blow it up trying to get me upset. Won't work. I tend to look at the source and here I see someone who has to try to aggravate some and see what reaction he can get .

And this forum could have gotten along fine without me, I never said it couldn't. It's many other members who have made the comments about what this game has been made into with my help, NOT by me alone. And just to cut you off, it was long before Brandon and Rocky and it wasn't vzbob.

The reason for my not being able to work is medical. If you had truly read this forum it has been asked a few times and answered with the specific reason, so like you, I won't answer it again.

Of course it will be ignored, that's your style, ignore what you don't want to address because it goes against you. I've addressed the points, you have your ears plugged. "The rest of your rhetoric will be ignored.". You may have addressed that "forum error" but you have NOT told me what was in it that "we all" saw.

" I said "steel" when I meant "coal" and you keep bringing it up" Probably because you keep bringing up the pill thing. Which I answered and you replied with "The rest of your rhetoric will be ignored." You have been repeating the same stuff about a few people all over.

"libel vs. liable is a pretty serious mistake as it's in your legal disclaimer.". You must have a really THICK skull, another thing you have in common with Lowell, me and Bobby's Railroads. Let me see if I can put this into words you, and maybe even he, can understand.......... IT (Bobby's Railroad) IS NOT (In no way; to no degree) MY (me, Larry Hammer) FORUM (A medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas)! It is vzbob's! He created it. He pays for it. He controls it. IT IS HIS. Now, did that get thru or will it have to be repeated several more time to add to the several times it has already been said? Sheesh. Do you have this problem with the job you do? (by the way, I've been told that the one in this forum is the same, so go jump on a few other heads)

One last thing, just in case you forgot......what was in that post of Brandons that he changed that was so BAD that you could only write 1 line that made no mention of it's content? Must have been REAL SHOCKING since not to make comment is way out of your style.

And NO you didn't address the pills... and read through that thread again if you want to realize WHO really has a thick skull-yours is a contender for Homer Simpson's title.

I don't see where you provide proof of anything, it's all talk, any time I ask for proof you make excuses. Why all the different rule systems? You are not accountable for anything you write, but you expect certified letters with depositions and such from me lol.

Also, you are so spineless!! You'll take all the BENEFITS of Bobby's site, but NONE OF THE LIABILITIES!!!! Anytime blame comes up it's "nope, wasn't me, it's bobby's site". Get real, bobby is a follower.... And I think we know who leads him around on that leash. So enough of insulting both of us with such lame remarks-you are just as responsible and possibly more since you likely come up with most of the ideas. I don't really care but YOU should, since you're an administrator and DON'T tell me bobby wrote that disclaimer-I'm betting it was you, this was also implied before BY YOU. If it was a cut and paste job (ie given to you by the host or something) it would have been correct-no somebody created that from looking at other sites or something and just messed it up-you.

And yes, Brandon is a liar and falisifer... but I must say, I respect him more than you, this is why: Brandon is HONEST about his DISHONESTY lol. He will blatantly doctor a PM (and I could care less if you know what I'm talking about-Brandon does) - right out in the open. He boldly declares "I'm willing to stoop to any level, you've been warned" lol, it's actually very funny. You on the other hand are a fraud, you hold yourself out like some lofty guy of virtue when it's almost all hypocrisy and nonsense and egomania... nothing fancier. Lies left and right, and you DENY it. Brandon doesn't deny it, I think he sits back and smirks, again I find his lies humorous in that regard-at least he seems to KNOW he's lying-you actually think you are an honest, honorable person - outrageous.

If you had any sense, you'd let things go when I gave you the opportunity and you talk about the size of my head... wow. Let's not forget who was willing to put differences aside and make peace, and who refused and started a fight again, that was LARRY.

And who gave me your name larry? You never seem to guess right on such things, you always seem to make poor assumptions and read people wrong-I personally think it's OBVIOUS who gave me your name- but I don't think you are observant enough to catch the obvious. And out of fear I'm sure you will refuse to name them... after all, we know your ego cannot handle being wrong-you'd rather hide in the dark. (otherwise, let's have that name mr. bold).

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And NO you didn't address the pills... and read through that thread again if you want to realize WHO really has a thick skull-yours is a contender for Homer Simpson's title.

I don't see where you provide proof of anything, it's all talk, any time I ask for proof you make excuses. Why all the different rule systems? You are not accountable for anything you write, but you expect certified letters with depositions and such from me lol.

Also, you are so spineless!! You'll take all the BENEFITS of Bobby's site, but NONE OF THE LIABILITIES!!!! Anytime blame comes up it's "nope, wasn't me, it's bobby's site". Get real, bobby is a follower.... And I think we know who leads him around on that leash. So enough of insulting both of us with such lame remarks-you are just as responsible and possibly more since you likely come up with most of the ideas. I don't really care but YOU should, since you're an administrator and DON'T tell me bobby wrote that disclaimer-I'm betting it was you, this was also implied before BY YOU. If it was a cut and paste job (ie given to you by the host or something) it would have been correct-no somebody created that from looking at other sites or something and just messed it up-you.

And yes, Brandon is a liar and falisifer... but I must say, I respect him more than you, this is why: Brandon is HONEST about his DISHONESTY lol. He will blatantly doctor a PM (and I could care less if you know what I'm talking about-Brandon does) - right out in the open. He boldly declares "I'm willing to stoop to any level, you've been warned" lol, it's actually very funny. You on the other hand are a fraud, you hold yourself out like some lofty guy of virtue when it's almost all hypocrisy and nonsense and egomania... nothing fancier. Lies left and right, and you DENY it. Brandon doesn't deny it, I think he sits back and smirks, again I find his lies humorous in that regard-at least he seems to KNOW he's lying-you actually think you are an honest, honorable person - outrageous.

If you had any sense, you'd let things go when I gave you the opportunity and you talk about the size of my head... wow. Let's not forget who was willing to put differences aside and make peace, and who refused and started a fight again, that was LARRY.

And who gave me your name larry? You never seem to guess right on such things, you always seem to make poor assumptions and read people wrong-I personally think it's OBVIOUS who gave me your name- but I don't think you are observant enough to catch the obvious. And out of fear I'm sure you will refuse to name them... after all, we know your ego cannot handle being wrong-you'd rather hide in the dark. (otherwise, let's have that name mr. bold).

Again, a lot of side stepping, refusing to prove what you say (How am I supposed to prove what you read and I didn't, and do you really want me to post all 27 of Brandons posts? Just show me ONCE where "Brandon is a liar and falisifier", and I don't mean removing that post, because you CAN'T prove anything in that.), and aggravating to try to get a rise and blame me.

Won't work.

So, like a few others who have posted it and PM'd it, "If you have a problem with people, ignore them. I do."

I hope you have a fun time replying to yourself.

[darthdroid]

And NO you didn't address the pills... and read through that thread again if you want to realize WHO really has a thick skull-yours is a contender for Homer Simpson's title.

I don't see where you provide proof of anything, it's all talk, any time I ask for proof you make excuses. Why all the different rule systems? You are not accountable for anything you write, but you expect certified letters with depositions and such from me lol.

Also, you are so spineless!! You'll take all the BENEFITS of Bobby's site, but NONE OF THE LIABILITIES!!!! Anytime blame comes up it's "nope, wasn't me, it's bobby's site". Get real, bobby is a follower.... And I think we know who leads him around on that leash. So enough of insulting both of us with such lame remarks-you are just as responsible and possibly more since you likely come up with most of the ideas. I don't really care but YOU should, since you're an administrator and DON'T tell me bobby wrote that disclaimer-I'm betting it was you, this was also implied before BY YOU. If it was a cut and paste job (ie given to you by the host or something) it would have been correct-no somebody created that from looking at other sites or something and just messed it up-you.

And yes, Brandon is a liar and falisifer... but I must say, I respect him more than you, this is why: Brandon is HONEST about his DISHONESTY lol. He will blatantly doctor a PM (and I could care less if you know what I'm talking about-Brandon does) - right out in the open. He boldly declares "I'm willing to stoop to any level, you've been warned" lol, it's actually very funny. You on the other hand are a fraud, you hold yourself out like some lofty guy of virtue when it's almost all hypocrisy and nonsense and egomania... nothing fancier. Lies left and right, and you DENY it. Brandon doesn't deny it, I think he sits back and smirks, again I find his lies humorous in that regard-at least he seems to KNOW he's lying-you actually think you are an honest, honorable person - outrageous.

If you had any sense, you'd let things go when I gave you the opportunity and you talk about the size of my head... wow. Let's not forget who was willing to put differences aside and make peace, and who refused and started a fight again, that was LARRY.

And who gave me your name larry? You never seem to guess right on such things, you always seem to make poor assumptions and read people wrong-I personally think it's OBVIOUS who gave me your name- but I don't think you are observant enough to catch the obvious. And out of fear I'm sure you will refuse to name them... after all, we know your ego cannot handle being wrong-you'd rather hide in the dark. (otherwise, let's have that name mr. bold).

Again, a lot of side stepping, refusing to prove what you say (How am I supposed to prove what you read and I didn't, and do you really want me to post all 27 of Brandons posts? Just show me ONCE where "Brandon is a liar and falisifier", and I don't mean removing that post, because you CAN'T prove anything in that.), and aggravating to try to get a rise and blame me.

Won't work.

So, like a few others who have posted it and PM'd it, "If you have a problem with people, ignore them. I do."

I hope you have a fun time replying to yourself.

My dearest Larry, I ALWAYS have fun arguing with you-you really have no idea I guess. And you kind of hit the nail on the head: When you guys delete a post I have not already copied-to remove the proof of my words, well then, neither of us have proof of anything.... by your logic you could go back to all your posts in the coal discussion, and start giving the right answer every time instead of the poor answers you gave... then you could deny the whole thing about the pills, claim I doctored what I wrote (when I copied your posts) and then ask me to prove it-you are funny indeed. And as I said, -I've no need to prove a thing to you: You are either oblivious to these things Brandon has done (the doctored PM was pretty damn good too-you really missed it???) in which case you are completely blind, or you know and just like to bellow in which case you're just a loud liar... take your pick-either way it doesn't look good for KING MODDER LARRY