Brazil Map
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Brazil Map
I'm trying to create the map of Brazil, but I am finding problems and would be helpful.
Unfortunately when I try to ask some industry on the map it just hangs. How are you bypassing the mistakes of the SMR?
I have the latest version of the game to acquire the site Direct2Drive
I attach my files of goods and industries
Sorry my English. I'm using google translator
Unfortunately when I try to ask some industry on the map it just hangs. How are you bypassing the mistakes of the SMR?
I have the latest version of the game to acquire the site Direct2Drive
I attach my files of goods and industries
Sorry my English. I'm using google translator
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- RRT_Goods_Brasil.zip
- Goods and Industries
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Re: Brazil Map
A very good map "carlosfernandes"!
Thank you!
Thank you!
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Re: Brazil Map
I'm editing the xml to include some industries, such as:
Gold, textile etc.
I hope until the end of the week
Gold, textile etc.
I hope until the end of the week
Re: Brazil Map
Beautiful map!
Looking over your two XMLs, there are a few problems.
In RRT_Industries_Brasil.xml you have the Refinery in there twice. Remove one of them.
From the looks of the two files, you have edited one of them:
You have a Brewery. This requires Grain and Beer. You have the Grain, but not the Beer. Either remove the Brewery from RRT_Industries_Brasil.xml or add Beer to RRT_Goods_Brasil.xml.
You have a Swine Farm. This requires Swine. Either remove the Swine Farm from RRT_Industries_Brasil.xml or add Swine to RRT_Goods_Brasil.xml.
You have a Cannery. This requires Fish and a Fishery. Either remove the Cannery from RRT_Industries_Brasil.xml or add Fish to RRT_Goods_Brasil.xml and a Fishery to RRT_Industries_Brasil.xml.
You have a Newspaper and a Paper Mill. These require Paper. Either remove the Newspaper and Paper Mill from RRT_Industries_Brasil.xml or add Paper to RRT_Goods_Brasil.xml.
Now we come to the fun one, the Nitrates. This comes from the Sheep Farm along with the Wool. Nitrates requires a Chemical Plant and a Hospital to be added to the RRT_Industries_Brasil.xml and Medicine to be added to the RRT_Goods_Brasil.xml. If you do not want to do this, you need to edit the Sheep farm to look like this:
<RRTIndustry>
<szName>Sheep Farm</szName>
<Production>
<Resource>
<Input>None</Input>
<Output>Wool</Output>
<InputOutputRatio>1.0</InputOutputRatio>
</Resource>
</Production>
</RRTIndustry>
This will make the Sheep Farm only put out Wool.
Since you did not post a copy of your RRT_TrainCars_Brasil.xml, I can not tell if you have all of the required Train Cars. This could also be part of your problem if you added any Industries to your map. Each item added or removed requires that Industries and Train Cars be added or removed. And, certain items added or removed require that you also edit the RRT_Cities_Brasil.xml be edited to add or remove things from going into the different city sizes.
The above is a reason that it is better to post the whole map as problems can be anywhere.
You might also want to translate and read the thread in 'Mods - Talk' called 'Map Making 101'. If you have any questions on that, please, ask and I'll do my best to answer.
Your map looks like it is going to be very interesting.......
Looking over your two XMLs, there are a few problems.
In RRT_Industries_Brasil.xml you have the Refinery in there twice. Remove one of them.
From the looks of the two files, you have edited one of them:
You have a Brewery. This requires Grain and Beer. You have the Grain, but not the Beer. Either remove the Brewery from RRT_Industries_Brasil.xml or add Beer to RRT_Goods_Brasil.xml.
You have a Swine Farm. This requires Swine. Either remove the Swine Farm from RRT_Industries_Brasil.xml or add Swine to RRT_Goods_Brasil.xml.
You have a Cannery. This requires Fish and a Fishery. Either remove the Cannery from RRT_Industries_Brasil.xml or add Fish to RRT_Goods_Brasil.xml and a Fishery to RRT_Industries_Brasil.xml.
You have a Newspaper and a Paper Mill. These require Paper. Either remove the Newspaper and Paper Mill from RRT_Industries_Brasil.xml or add Paper to RRT_Goods_Brasil.xml.
Now we come to the fun one, the Nitrates. This comes from the Sheep Farm along with the Wool. Nitrates requires a Chemical Plant and a Hospital to be added to the RRT_Industries_Brasil.xml and Medicine to be added to the RRT_Goods_Brasil.xml. If you do not want to do this, you need to edit the Sheep farm to look like this:
<RRTIndustry>
<szName>Sheep Farm</szName>
<Production>
<Resource>
<Input>None</Input>
<Output>Wool</Output>
<InputOutputRatio>1.0</InputOutputRatio>
</Resource>
</Production>
</RRTIndustry>
This will make the Sheep Farm only put out Wool.
Since you did not post a copy of your RRT_TrainCars_Brasil.xml, I can not tell if you have all of the required Train Cars. This could also be part of your problem if you added any Industries to your map. Each item added or removed requires that Industries and Train Cars be added or removed. And, certain items added or removed require that you also edit the RRT_Cities_Brasil.xml be edited to add or remove things from going into the different city sizes.
The above is a reason that it is better to post the whole map as problems can be anywhere.
You might also want to translate and read the thread in 'Mods - Talk' called 'Map Making 101'. If you have any questions on that, please, ask and I'll do my best to answer.
Your map looks like it is going to be very interesting.......
I'm correct 97% of the time..... who cares about the other 4%....
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Re: Brazil Map
I was reading this link http://www.mike.kennelly.dsl.pipex.com/ ... _ascii.txt
I noticed that. everything has to be connected, but it seems that I am having trouble fully understand.
I'm posting all my xml files.
What I want is transposed into RRT_Goods_Brasil.xml, means that similar to the Brazilian reality
I noticed that. everything has to be connected, but it seems that I am having trouble fully understand.
I'm posting all my xml files.
What I want is transposed into RRT_Goods_Brasil.xml, means that similar to the Brazilian reality
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- RRT_Brasil_xml.zip
- RRT_Goods_Brasil.xml
RRT_TrainCars_Brasil.xml
RRT_Trains_Brasil.xml
RRT_Industries_Brasil.xml - (1.99 KiB) Downloaded 434 times
Re: Brazil Map
There are 2 system for the industry, namely Random industry and Not Random, Random industry does mean you not need to put the industry in accordance with the game you want but this will place the location where the industry is by this game, not vice versa for the Not Random you need to place the location of industry in accordance with the you want, to the two methods can not be combined and you must choose one of them, now going on RRT_Industri_Brazil.XML you use both systems so that this game to show the confused system which used a consequence Games can not be read from the location of Industrial Map thiscarlosfernandes wrote:I was reading this link http://www.mike.kennelly.dsl.pipex.com/ ... _ascii.txt
I noticed that. everything has to be connected, but it seems that I am having trouble fully understand.
I'm posting all my xml files.
What I want is transposed into RRT_Goods_Brasil.xml, means that similar to the Brazilian reality
If you use the system is not random, you can not put the location of industry, but it applies only to the Industrial In-City in the future in the game you can build this industry in the city you want, but you can not build the industry outside the city when the game is running
Run the SMR Games in Opened menu select "Terrain Editor" then select "save Load Map" select Brazil map you have saved before. Ok after that select the menu "Edit entities" and then select the menu "AutoPlace Industries" after the hit "Save entities", and then exit from menu "Edit entities" and then return to the Main Menu Editor and then save the map and out of the Terrain Editor, this System called Random System Industries. Run your map, it is usually can be working fine. Because you use the Good and the Standard Industries, you do not need to edit the XML file for the Good and the Industry Standard, Terrain Editor has made all the xml file, unless you want to want to add a new Good or Industry.
Good luck
Sorry for my bad english because I use google translator too...
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Re: Brazil Map
OK lets start with the basics:
For an industry to work you need:
1. Goods (Grain)
2. TrainCar to move it (Grain Car)
3. Industry to produce it (Grain Farm)
4. Train station to load it. (Depot, Grain Farm Annex)
For the industries in the City you do not need a separate Depot, the City train station will do it automatically.
You have to be very careful of the spelling and punctuations.
We will have to ask Snoopy to keep his language simple so that Google can translate it easier.
Jancsika
For an industry to work you need:
1. Goods (Grain)
2. TrainCar to move it (Grain Car)
3. Industry to produce it (Grain Farm)
4. Train station to load it. (Depot, Grain Farm Annex)
For the industries in the City you do not need a separate Depot, the City train station will do it automatically.
You have to be very careful of the spelling and punctuations.
We will have to ask Snoopy to keep his language simple so that Google can translate it easier.
Jancsika
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Re: Brazil Map
Thank you for explanations.
I have to edit this file to work perfectly
RRT_Goods_Brasil.xml
RRT_TrainCars_Brasil.xml
RRT_Depots_Brasil.xml (I can not use the default?)
RRT_Industries_Brasil.xml
I read the topic of snoopy to understand, but I do think it works.
What I thought was strange he does not follow the standards of the game files even if one of the files mentioned in xml.
Quest for Snoopy
Can I use the file Stripped Reality Masters done for you?
I believe that using the data contained therein do not have problems with the error when you include the industries
Even copying what you did not I create the xml files. If a mistake is closing the game. I think I will leave aside the creation of map.
I have to edit this file to work perfectly
RRT_Goods_Brasil.xml
RRT_TrainCars_Brasil.xml
RRT_Depots_Brasil.xml (I can not use the default?)
RRT_Industries_Brasil.xml
I read the topic of snoopy to understand, but I do think it works.
What I thought was strange he does not follow the standards of the game files even if one of the files mentioned in xml.
Quest for Snoopy
Can I use the file Stripped Reality Masters done for you?
I believe that using the data contained therein do not have problems with the error when you include the industries
Even copying what you did not I create the xml files. If a mistake is closing the game. I think I will leave aside the creation of map.
Re: Brazil Map
It is difficult to correct the errors when we can not see the whole project.
You should Zip up the whole directory from C:\ My Documents\My Games\Sid Meier's Railroads! , and post it here.
Here are some errors that need to be corrected:
1 There is Paper Mill industry, but there is no Paper in Goods.
2 There is Cannery industry, but no Fish in Goods.
3 There is Swine Farm industry, but no Swine in Goods.
4 There is Brewery industry, but no Beer Goods. You also have to change the Cask Car to ship Beer instead of Wine.
These are easy to correct, so do not feel bad.
It takes only a little practice.
Jancsika
You should Zip up the whole directory from C:\ My Documents\My Games\Sid Meier's Railroads! , and post it here.
Here are some errors that need to be corrected:
1 There is Paper Mill industry, but there is no Paper in Goods.
2 There is Cannery industry, but no Fish in Goods.
3 There is Swine Farm industry, but no Swine in Goods.
4 There is Brewery industry, but no Beer Goods. You also have to change the Cask Car to ship Beer instead of Wine.
These are easy to correct, so do not feel bad.
It takes only a little practice.
Jancsika
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Re: Brazil Map
I understand how it works.
I have to make the correct reference of Goods, Industries, depots, Train Cars
problems:
1. After editing all the files, when I open the map editor, does not appear that the industry put on file RRT_Industries_Brasil.xml, showing a list of all industries and after adding an industry on the map can not burn, the publisher announced that the file is the attribute "read only"
2. I had to include below, but still the error when you put this industry in the editor. Perhaps by not having read my xml
<RRTIndustry>
<szName>Sheep Farm</szName>
<Production>
<Resource>
<Input>None</Input>
<Output>Wool</Output>
<InputOutputRatio>1.0</InputOutputRatio>
</Resource>
</Production>
</RRTIndustry>
I am now at work, at home, put all files.
I have to make the correct reference of Goods, Industries, depots, Train Cars
problems:
1. After editing all the files, when I open the map editor, does not appear that the industry put on file RRT_Industries_Brasil.xml, showing a list of all industries and after adding an industry on the map can not burn, the publisher announced that the file is the attribute "read only"
2. I had to include below, but still the error when you put this industry in the editor. Perhaps by not having read my xml
<RRTIndustry>
<szName>Sheep Farm</szName>
<Production>
<Resource>
<Input>None</Input>
<Output>Wool</Output>
<InputOutputRatio>1.0</InputOutputRatio>
</Resource>
</Production>
</RRTIndustry>
I am now at work, at home, put all files.
Re: Brazil Map
You use the system random or not random, if you use a random system if you open Terrain editor industry will not be displayed, and as I have said before, if you do use a not random system the industry outside the city must be given the location of all in the Terrain editor, if not later in the game industry that will not be displayed, you try to send RRT_Industri_Brazil_Map.xml, let's see where the errorcarlosfernandes wrote:I understand how it works.
I have to make the correct reference of Goods, Industries, depots, Train Cars
problems:
1. After editing all the files, when I open the map editor, does not appear that the industry put on file RRT_Industries_Brasil.xml, showing a list of all industries and after adding an industry on the map can not burn, the publisher announced that the file is the attribute "read only"
2. I had to include below, but still the error when you put this industry in the editor. Perhaps by not having read my xml
<RRTIndustry>
<szName>Sheep Farm</szName>
<Production>
<Resource>
<Input>None</Input>
<Output>Wool</Output>
<InputOutputRatio>1.0</InputOutputRatio>
</Resource>
</Production>
</RRTIndustry>
I am now at work, at home, put all files.
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Re: Brazil Map - New Files
I feel strange to allow the original recording and editing does not allow the recording.
Edit. post correct file
Edit. post correct file
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Last edited by carlosfernandes on Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Brazil Map
#1 We will need map_Brazil.tga
file. That is missing from your upload!!
#2 Are you using the the "Terrain editor"?
If yes, we will need the file Republica Federativa do Brasil.SMR_Scenario
#3 What is your computer operating system. Windows XP or Windows Vista?
Jancsika
file. That is missing from your upload!!
#2 Are you using the the "Terrain editor"?
If yes, we will need the file Republica Federativa do Brasil.SMR_Scenario
#3 What is your computer operating system. Windows XP or Windows Vista?
Jancsika
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Re: Brazil Map
Jancsika wrote:#1 We will need map_Brazil.tga
file. That is missing from your upload!!
#2 Are you using the the "Terrain editor"?
If yes, we will need the file Republica Federativa do Brasil.SMR_Scenario
#3 What is your computer operating system. Windows XP or Windows Vista?
Jancsika
file in Previous post
I use XP SP3
Re: Brazil Map
I have them now.
One more Question:
Do you know how to edit XML files?
You have several errors in the XML files.
A good XML editor will find it.
Rodea has one and will give it to you. It is free and will find the errors.I have it here.
Your problem is that you are trying to do too many things at the beginning.
1. Clean out all your files. All those goods and industries are confusing.
a./Leave only the Passengers, Mail and Coal in the Goods.XML file.
b./ Leave only the Power Plant and the Coal Mine in the Industries.XML file.
c./ Leave only the Passenger Cars, Mail Cars, and Coal Cars in the TrainCars.XML file.
d./ In the Depot.XML leave only the Depot, Station,Terminal, and Coal Mine Annex in the Depot.XML file.
I did all that for you. The items not in use are placed in the <!-- Comments -->
Your next step should be to go in the Terrain Editor and place a few cities. Make them "Start Locations" but do not place any Industry or resource. When done check it, running some passenger cars and mail cars.
The game will place industries automatically, so you do not have to do anything about that.
Next you can start to edit your XML files, placing one line of industry at a time.
For example: Ore, Gold Mine Annex, Gold Mine, Ore Car.
You also have to make the cities to receive Ore.In the Production modifiers in the Cities.XML file add these lines:
<Resource>
<Input>Ore</Input>
<Output>None</Output>
<InputOutputRatio>0.000000</InputOutputRatio>
<MaxStorage>0.000000</MaxStorage>
</Resource>
Once you add the next product line - that is gold - you can change the Ore to Gold
Here is Rodea's XML editor: And here is Your Map: It is important to test every step you make. That way it is easier to find the errors. It takes longer but you will save time at the end.
Jancsika
One more Question:
Do you know how to edit XML files?
You have several errors in the XML files.
A good XML editor will find it.
Rodea has one and will give it to you. It is free and will find the errors.I have it here.
Your problem is that you are trying to do too many things at the beginning.
1. Clean out all your files. All those goods and industries are confusing.
a./Leave only the Passengers, Mail and Coal in the Goods.XML file.
b./ Leave only the Power Plant and the Coal Mine in the Industries.XML file.
c./ Leave only the Passenger Cars, Mail Cars, and Coal Cars in the TrainCars.XML file.
d./ In the Depot.XML leave only the Depot, Station,Terminal, and Coal Mine Annex in the Depot.XML file.
I did all that for you. The items not in use are placed in the <!-- Comments -->
Your next step should be to go in the Terrain Editor and place a few cities. Make them "Start Locations" but do not place any Industry or resource. When done check it, running some passenger cars and mail cars.
The game will place industries automatically, so you do not have to do anything about that.
Next you can start to edit your XML files, placing one line of industry at a time.
For example: Ore, Gold Mine Annex, Gold Mine, Ore Car.
You also have to make the cities to receive Ore.In the Production modifiers in the Cities.XML file add these lines:
<Resource>
<Input>Ore</Input>
<Output>None</Output>
<InputOutputRatio>0.000000</InputOutputRatio>
<MaxStorage>0.000000</MaxStorage>
</Resource>
Once you add the next product line - that is gold - you can change the Ore to Gold
Here is Rodea's XML editor: And here is Your Map: It is important to test every step you make. That way it is easier to find the errors. It takes longer but you will save time at the end.
Jancsika