Lowell wrote:Building your own versions and name it something else. Do not use the same map name idiot, I reserve the main name as I may make new versions myself. Make a new name other than having mud skippers in the name as well as the other maps...adding sam2 at the end is not the same as renaming the scenario as you have edited the scenario goals and they are not the same mod anymore.
The real files for my mods will be at Mod DB. What they have done is go inside my files and monkey with them then re-post them with their stuff added etc. I cannot say if they run properly or not. But they surely are not the full versions that are out now. Those people who copy everything are not smart enough to make their own creations.
Lowell wrote:The issue here is if I build a new map and post if here. Then you take it and post it on another site and convert it to a sam, my version of the mod might never get downloaded. So if you edit the scenario goals say, or make other changes, then re-post it as say mud skippers sam2, then people will think that is the original mod. Plus I would never get any feedback from any of the players. Map makers need feedback on their threads if they are to develop better mods. Plus if there are any issues. What if your sam version starts to crash, or won't let a player return to a saved game? You can trash people's projects that way.
Then there is the issue of making a sam2 when the map is halfway through being updated. You are misleading the players of my maps when you do that. My maps are already stand alone maps, why make a stand alone map of a stand alone map, other than steeling traffic from the main map thread?
Can you guys defend yourselves from your actions now? New players right now may be downloading that scenario you guys have edited/changed/re-posted. They may never see this main thread for my map/mod.
I just don't understand your actions. You guys are a complete bummer.
Lowell, I'm not one of them guys. I'm someone who reads the License Agreement. You made the map, but it belongs to 2K/Firaxis, no matter where it is. They too can download it and edited it to thier hearts desire. And your name is listed as the original mapper on the post and in the map.
Look, there are 3 Europe maps on this forum, two UK maps, three Germany maps, two Alaska maps, two Australia maps and four Side to Side maps, two of which had scenario editing done by Jancsika. Why not, who cares? There was one mapper who did not want his map made into a SAM. As I pointed out above, you said it was OK to use it in any way, just chnage the name. You called it a Mud Skippers CIC. Now you have named it Mud Skippers. Bobby called his Mud Skippers SAM2. The UK maps are called UK and UK2. I never read anything from you about that. And then there is the Ohio map that you made two maps out of. Did that "trash" jowe10's Ohio map when one of yours crashed?
You keep talking about other people causing trouble. I ran Mud Skippers SAM2 and it runs smoothly. You have been changing yours since that one came out, and you say you will continue to be changing it. OK, someone downloads your map today, but does not get around to running it for a month. There is a problem with it and he tells you. What are you going to do, tell him he has to keep downloading it everyday in order to keep up with all the changes and repairs you do?
And calling me "idiot" is a bit childish. And nowhere in the License Agreement or in this forum does it state that anyone can reserve a name. Where were you when it was done in the maps listed above?
As I saw in the Mud Skippers SAM2, the use of 'mud' in item names was left the same. A few things in the Scenario XML was changed, a few goal numbers and the removal of the notice to contact you. But, any errors which might show up should be sent to bobby, not you, just like a problem with your car should be sent to the manufacturer, not the person who built the first car ever.
Lowell, if people do not like what was done to make that Mud Skippers SAM2, well they should not download it, simple as that. I do not think anyone has thier hand on anyone elses forcing them to download it. I give you about two more weeks and your map will be even more different. Get over it and get on with all the map editing and other things you have to do.
Look at it this way, your announcing it on this forum is simply an advertisement for it so people will go over there and check it out.
One more thing, you need to complain about one of Jancsika's latest SAMs, Sodor SAM, which uses the map name "The Island Of Sodor", the same as Rodea2007's map. No complaints or rantings there?
